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But a whole lot of supposed nominal democrats commenting at the above site are quite upset with Obama over his pre-emptive racism strike on McCain.

Obamafans already achieved their main goal: (5.00 / 8) (#195)
by pluege on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 11:07:59 AM EST

beating the Clintons.
Obama's primary was run as if they had no intention of winning the GE - after all Obama is young, a loss this year doesn't hurt his future.

Obamafans are a combination of stupid as hell and egomaniacal. Their arrogance is sickening. They did great damage to the democratic party and the country.

pleuge (5.00 / 6) (#236)
by tek on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 12:53:30 PM EST

I would agree with what you say except that I don't think it's just "Obama fans." Unfortunately, I believe the Party leaders are the people most responsible for this fiasco, they even came out themselves and repeated that the Clintons are racists and that the Clintons were "attacking Obama" in a shameful way. All lies.
This and the corruption of the entire primary process is what makes me think twice about supporting the Democratic ticket this time around. It isn't revenge or a grudge. It's that I don't think this bunch of Dems have enough sense to run the country any better than Bush, and they seem just as corrupt.

Gee, what was the first clue?

Talking about race in this way. . . (5.00 / 3) (#27)
by LarryInNYC on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 09:16:55 AM EST

is bad for him. Discussion of "race cards", "entitlement", etc is bad.
But there is a racial narrative that I think would work for him, and that's the idea that middle-of-the-roaders have the opportunity to vote for this candidate who is centrist, masculine, Christian, etc and to receive some form of absolution for their own personal histories and the national history of racism.

I don't know how Obama gets this idea across (you can't state it baldly, obviously) but that kind of narrative works for him, I think.

Wasn't it the Democrats who were screaming loudly about Bush implementing a theocracy whenever he made mention of his religious beliefs? Guess it's okay when Obama does it...

Really? (4.69 / 13) (#14)
by JimWash08 on Sat Aug 02, 2008 at 09:08:19 AM EST

If Obama loses the election, it will be because of this.
C'mon! I think you have to give the people who don't care for Obama (a majority of them, at least) the benefit of the doubt.

I don't care whether Obama is black, white, red or blue. He is just not what I want to see in a future president. If he wasn't inexperienced, incompetent in several aspects, and just plain NOT-ready for the job, he'd have my vote.

I could overlook his questionable associations with a few people of his past; and while it'll be difficult, I also could overlook his horrible behavior during the Primary season ... but he just isn't ready, or proven to be ready, to take this country on a new road.

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But coming back to the topic of the "race card." YES, he DID play the race card in the Primaries, and has continued to play the race card since he became the presumptive nominee.

Also, Axelrod admitted on Good Morning America that the "dollar bill" remark had to do with race.

Finally it seems to be sinking in. "He is just not what I want to see in a future president. If he wasn't inexperienced, incompetent in several aspects, and just plain NOT-ready for the job, he'd have my vote."

I don't think it's racist to say if it weren't for his skin color, Obama wouldn't be where he is today. As is pointed out so clearly, he's inexperienced and incompetent in several aspects and just plain not ready for the job. If Obama were white, he'd still be a junior Senator from Illinois - if he'd even gotten that far. If McCain were black, I'd still be voting for him in November. Skin color doesn't MATTER - qualifications do.

J.