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Stop The ACLU � Blog Archive � Did Howard Dean Manipulate KS Governor Sebelius Into Publicly Criticizing The White House?But it was a good sound bite, against Bush, and that was the most important thing.Did Howard Dean order KS gov to lie about FEMA’s response to the Greensburg tornado?
posted at 6:44 pm on May 10, 2007 by BryanXM Radio’s Quinn & Rose made the allegation that DNC Chairman Howard Dean called Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius early Sunday morning and instructed her not to request federal assistance in recovery from the Greensburg tornado, and to lie about the federal response to date, on their show, The War Room, today. After I discussed the story via phone with both Quinn and Rose today, here’s what they sent me.
PLEASE NOTE: The following is information we have received from a reliable source. We have never been misinformed by this person in the past.
It seems that, on Sunday, a few hours after Kansas Governor, Kathleen Sebelius, made her remarks about Bush sending all their National Guard Members and Resources to Iraq, she made a call to Brownback
Sebelius, was calling to apologize to the Senator for making the Political statements that she did. She explained that she did not believe them and that they actually had too many National Guardsmen show up.
Jason - I'm afraid that the Democratic Party has reached a point where PARTY is more important than COUNTRY.
Governor Sebelius explained “Sam, you know how political everything is right now and we’re not allowed to let an opportunity like this just pass.” She continued “I made sure not to blame you or Pat (Senator Roberts?) or anybody outside the White House. With his (Bush’s) numbers, you can’t really blame me for usin’ that.”Of course, sourcing something like this is important.Then Sebelius explained the path to her comments. After Brownback told her that he was very disappointed in her, She pleaded “You know me Sam, I wouldn’t have said it if I didn’t have to.” She declared “Howard (Dean) called me around 5 o’clock (in the morning) and told me not to ask The White House for any help or make any statements until I heard back. Dick (Durban?) called me an hour or 2 later and that’s when he told me we needed to use this ‘n’ said to talk about the Guard all bein’ at war.”
She then explained the thinking; “Speaker and Harry got so much heat on them from both sides over this damn war, ‘n’ they need to get the press on somethin’ else. I didn’t think it was right to use it like this either, but I didn’t see’s I had much choice in this climate, Sam.”
She the[n] apologized a few more times and promised that she’d try to move away from the comment when she and Brownback were to meet up later and tour the damage, but she had to so it without disappointing Dean and Pelosi.
I asked them to characterize their source, and they replied that she or he would be in a position to have knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Brownback and Gov. Sebelius and has never misinformed them before. Sean Hannity has called Sen. Brownback’s office to either verify or debunk the story, but so far the senator has done neither. There is word that the senator may attempt a “limited hangout” strategy this weekend, in which he acknowledges that the conversation took place but won’t remember the Dean angle. Such a strategy, if that’s what Sen. Brownback does, might be an attempt to maintain comity in what has until now been by all accounts a smooth relationship between the Democratic governor and Republican officials in Kansas. Comity shouldn’t come at the price of truth, however.This is very disappointing, if true. And judging by other reports...At this point, I have no way of verifying whether DNC Chairman Howard Dean called Kansas Governor Kathleen Sebelius and instructed her to lie about the federal response to Friday’s devastating tornado. But I will make some calls and see what I can find out. Quinn & Rose’s story does fit the timeline and does fit the Democrat M.O. of late, in which they find a way to blame every single thing under the sun on Bush and on the war in Iraq. Other Democrat governors have pre-emptively blamed the lack of response to disasters that haven’t even happened yet on Bush and the war in Iraq. So on its face the story strikes me as very plausible.
wcbstv.com - Greensburg Victim Rips Kansas Gov. For CommentsIt may well be."You may have seen her on television when she said that, and she talked about Hummers, that we needed Hummers. There were Hummers sitting in front of my house every day. The National Guard was there," he said. "I saw people from all over who came right away to help and nobody sent them, they just came because they knew it was going to be big. The response was excellent, the rescue efforts were all night long, and I even made a comment to my wife later that night when we came back into our basement that I can't imagine anyone saying we had a poor response to this tragedy, that it was so quick and it was amazing."
Swigart says the general feeling around the town is that residents were overwhelmed by the immediate response, and that the governor's fuss was for her own good. White House press secretary Tony Snow responded to Sebelius by saying that there was no request by Kansas officials for extra equipment, and that if there is anyone to blame, it's her.
"I was told she wanted to run as vice president on the Democratic ticket, and honestly, I wouldn't vote for her if they paid me because of that one thing she said on television right there. It was a political slam is all it was," he said. "It was a political statement and as far as the military thing overseas, I support what they're doing over there, and the military that came here is doing a great job too."
She may have been, by some standards, an honest and upstanding governer. But for a few minutes, perhaps with urging or without, something slipped. Remember, comrades - PARTY is more important than COUNTRY.
J.
Comments (3)
Heh, yeah, for the democrats party is more important than country.
You've been pretty quiet about it lately, but the scandals (one after another after another) that roll out of the Bush administration and the former republican leadership on the hill are all the result of party being more important than country--but not to the democrats.
I won't even say that it's not true of the dems. I'm not very fond of the two-party system, as it tends to reinforce and reward that kind of thinking. But geeze, if anybody's taken it to an extreme in the last 20 years, it's not MY party. Mostly my party runs around like chickens with their heads cut off.
Your party, on the other hand, showed some real party-line discipline.
Posted by Jason | May 11, 2007 11:00 AM
Posted on May 11, 2007 11:00
Jason:
Please don't just hum the tune. If you you want us to believe you really know the song, sing it!
This is the same generalized blame Bush BS that I hear everyday from people who would like to say the Bush Administration and the Republican Party are no better than the Democratic Party and its leadership.
If you are going to convince me that you have a valid point here you're going to have to cite names, times, and offenses.
It would also be nice if you could use that often neglected blog tool called a link.
If you do decide to provide a link to something that supports your allegations, Please try to link to something substantive, online copies of legal filings, criminal indictments, or other original source documentation. Links to some anti-Bush bozo's opinions on another blog are not acceptable.
otpu
Posted by Otpu | May 11, 2007 1:53 PM
Posted on May 11, 2007 13:53
Jason - you commented a while back...
I predict that coalition's just had a severe kick in the nuts. Like it or not, it's going to color every perception about her from here on.I might also point out that a lot of the so-called scandals in the Bush administration are manufactured by the media. Gonzales fires 8 prosectuors - it can't be because of anything EXCEPT some sort of conspiracy. Look at all the hot air surrounding Libby supposedly outing Plame, when she herself admitted she didn't know if she were covert or not. (If she were, she sure wasn't acting like she was, by all accounts I've read.) Hot air and fluff - and I'm supposed to believe that it matters whether someone can remember where someone heard about someone who suggested Joe Wilson for the Nigeria trip, when he came back and told one thing to the CIA and something entirely different to the press? Oh, look! Something shiny in the news! Let's go pay attention to it! Talk about misdirection...
And now you're trying to say that the Republicans are no better - dude, what does that say about the Democrats in that case?
Yes, I'll agree with you on that. And we're supposed to believe that if they win the Trifecta and get the Presidency and both houses, suddenly they'll have a clue?You ain't reassuring me here. And I'm not trying to be funny, either.
J.
Posted by JLawson | May 11, 2007 2:36 PM
Posted on May 11, 2007 14:36