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The building of hatred...

I've been accused, in other forums, of being hate-filled. Needless to say, I don't agree with that - but let's look at some of the things I'm believing these days and I'll let you judge for yourself.

Pre 9/11, I had this warm and fuzzy idea that Muslims were just regular folk. I’d worked for some, and they were pretty good people. After 9/11, it’s getting more and more difficult to persuade myself that Muslims are good folk. I know that not all adhere to the ‘Kill them all, let Allah sort ‘em out’ philosophy, but it’s sure looking more and more like there’s a strain of Islam that will need to be uprooted and destroyed to protect the rest of Islam and civilization as we know it.

And THAT isn’t made easier by the ‘why can’t we all just get along’ crowd. The reason we can’t get along is that THEY hate US, not the reverse. They want to kill us. Their avowed mission is to die, taking as many unbelievers with them as possible. It’s not hard to understand that they’d rather cut your head off than make any deals with you, that they’d rather kill a woman in a bikini than look at her, that they want EVERYONE to believe JUST as they do, with no variance, and those that don’t DESERVE to die. And it's their mission, their calling, to make sure that death occurs.

Perhaps those on the left are playing the old ‘enemy of my enemy is my friend’ tune - but they’re going to find out that all that’s earning them (since those on the left trying to play that game seem to also be quite in favor of women’s rights - which would earn them death - and gay rights - which would earn them death) is a slightly later place in the headhacking line.

So. Peaceful? Gentle? Co-Existing? Those folks who are proclaiming that Islam is a peaceful religion had better start showing us that, and stop telling us just how peaceful and gentle you wish you were if it weren’t for all the damn unbelievers cluttering up the place.

And just in case you're tempted to say I need to be 'enlightened' about how peaceful Islam is and how violent Christianity is -- I'm aware of the checkered past of Christianity, and I'm also aware that it has (at least for the present time) grown out of it. Sorry, but fuck the enlightenment bullshit. Any time I’ve been told I need to ‘enlighten’ myself, it’s usually someone looking to blow smoke up my ass. “Gee, you really need to ENLIGHTEN yourself about the conspiracy about the moon landings! About the REAL purpose about HAARP. About the explosives that were embedded in the WTC when it was built!” Enlightment? No thanks. I’ll make my own conclusions based on a really voluminous reading habit and a wide knowledge of a lot of things and a pretty good bullshit filter. All ‘enlightenment’ does is give me what someone THINKS is going on, and I can figure out for myself what to think, thankyewvurrymuch...

But you know, there's something that the peace-loving folks have gotten right.

Hate breeds hate.

Pre 9/11, about 99.98% of the folks in the US couldn’t have cared less about Islam. It wasn’t on the radar, except in a ‘Oh, look at what those nasty Taliban are doing’ sort of way. It was a non-issue.

Now, it’s an issue. Now, hate is building. That hate’s building because people are looking at Islam’s excesses, and NOT liking what they see. Hate DOES breed hate - in the hated. And w're hated, folks. We're really hated.

I used to have a great deal of sympathy for the Palestinians. Then 9/11 hit, and I started paying attention to what was going on inside Palestinian society. You want to talk about HATE, there’s a good place to start. When your society as a whole raises a child to believe that the absolute pinnacle of his life, the highest purpose he coupld possibly attain is to serve as a one-shot explosives delivery platform, there’s something seriously and decidedly fucked about that society. And I don’t attribute it all to Israel by a long shot - Israel took a few dozen square miles of desert and made it bloom - while the Palestinians took a few dozen square miles of desert and turned it into Dante’s Hell.

They’ve bought into the fiction that they’re entitled to what ‘magically’ appeared when Israel was created, overlooking the fact that they could have done the same thing if they wanted…. or rather, if their leadership had wanted it instead of grabbing it from Israel after THEY made it. As it was, they fucked themselves royally by their blind allegiance to Arafat and now they wallow in their own hatred. They can SEE they’ve been fucked over by their leaders, they KNOW they’re really badly screwed, and they’ve got to completely and totally deny it… because to ACCEPT it would be to take responsibility for it.

And THAT is completely and utterly unthinkable. It’s far easier, far better to deny it completely and blame someone - ANYONE - else for the problems they’ve so carefully and determinedly woven into their society for years. They've created a culture based on hatred of those who aren't them. Hatred of the Jews. Hatred of the US. Hatred of anyone who isn't a Palestinian. They marinate it in, they wallow in it, they eat it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. They mainline it, snort it and smoke it. And we're supposed to be sympathetic towards them? Sorry, but my sympathy meter’s gone to zero and then pegged to the left. When Hezbollah kidnapped the soldiers, it started to smoke. I’m out of sympathy for them.

As far as Hamas and Hezbollah go, they’re getting what they deserve and I hope they appreciate that they’ve been setting the conditions for the Israeli reprisal for a long time. I’m amazed, frankly, that the IDF’s been as selective as they have been - if it were me I’d have been looking at carpet bombing and napalm. But then, I’m not terribly patient and would tend to be rather unforgiving after about the hundredth or so Hamas attack.

On one board I've seen, a commenter mentioned there’s a billion Muslims and they aren’t going away. That’s fine - I don’t want them to go away, I want them to stop blowing themselves up at perceived slights and provocations, looking to take out their angst and hatred on the world that’s not living up to their standards. I want them to realize that they lose a hell of a lot more respect when they violently demonstrate about CARTOONS and make death threats than if they just shrug it off.

I want Sunnis to stop bombing Shiites. I want the mullahs and imams to realize that THEY are the ones who’re going to have to drop the damn attitude that they’re ENTITLED to make everyone else do what THEY think is right. I want the Palestinians to disabuse themselves of the idea that they are somehow entitled to Israel because their forefathers bugged out when told to when the countries surrounding Israel declared war and tried to wipe them out. That Hezbollah is somehow entitled to fire missiles into Israel, and kidnap soldiers without fear of reprisal. That Islam is NOT going to be the dominant, worldwide religion, and Shari’a is NOT going to become law covering the world. That they’re going to have to learn to live with other religions that don’t believe as they do. That a woman wearing a bikini in public isn’t a justification for rape. That somehow they can drag the world kicking and screaming back into the 8th century.

As I said - THEY learn tolerance of others and stop blowing shit up, and we’ll all get along fine. If they don’t, it could get real messy real damn fast. And that’ll be greatly regretted - but it’s past time they grew up and realized the world is not going to conform to their desires. And if they want to destroy the world if they can't have it, then they're going to be destroyed.

The truth is that some sects of Islam have refused to accept the responsibility of rationally dealing with a world that will not bend to their wishes.

They bring their doom on themselves. I’ll not shed a tear for the death of someone who’d gladly kill me because I don’t believe like they do. Live and let live - I’ll gladly follow that - but that requires both sides to accept it. Radical Islam isn’t showing that sort of tolerance. I’ll not bare my throat and let myself be killed because my unbelief is intolerable to them, and I’m supposed to be ‘accepting of their cultural differences’. You can embrace their knife if you want. I won't.

Have a nice day. Don’t forget to floss.

J.

(This has been excerpted from my comments at Dust My Broom - Kipling-izing Jihad. Unfortunately, thecomments which caused my comments have been removed, for whatever reason.)

Comments (6)

Cyli:

BRAVO J!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks, Cyli -

I'm just getting so damn tired of the 'Why do they hate us so much' crowd putting the blame on EVERYTHING but the fact that our opponents hate us, they've been taught to hate by their governments and religion, and I refuse to bare my throat to that hatred because someone thinks if we just give them everything they want they won't hate us any more.

What they want is for us to die. I don't see that as a viable option.

J.

Ben USN (ret):

If we appease them, they grow stronger.
If we attack them, they grow, also.
Total war is needed, to destroy them.
You are right on, Jerry!
What a (soon to be classic) rant!

Ben -

I hate to think we'll need to go to total war, but what options there are simply don't seem to be working. We aren't going to be able to wait them out, like we did Communism. At some point, it's going to become apparent that the usual Diplo-Dance isn't producing any results. And on that day, all-out war may well be the least-worst solution from a real short list of options.

J.

The question of 'why do they hate us?' is one that is disingenuous as it tries to figure out 'intent' rather than judge actions. I do not care why the act the way they do, it is barbarous and there is NO justification nor reason for it. And trying to convince me that the hatred of barbarians can be ended by *talk* and *finding out why they hate us so* is that of asking for being killed, not in stopping the killers.

I agree that the old conception of Total War is not the answer to this kind of conflict. War is required, but a reformulation of much older warfare that is *also* asymmetrical and unstoppable and finds ways to cut off enemies from supplies and goods and commerce. That requires that we think a bit more like the early Rebublic and then recast those thoughts into the 21st Century. A civilied method of fighting and winning is available... just *not* the one we have been told is the *only* one available. It isn't... not to the Republic of Free People living under the Constitution of the United States. We have *more* options because... well... we had a rough upbringing and needed to take down mere bullies from time to time, and keep the powder of the military dry for bigger things. When Law Enforcement, Force of Arms, Diplomacy, and All other Lawful parts of Government prove ineffective at fighting... then it is time for that *other* war power to come out... the one where Citizens take down the little bullies so the military can take out the Giants amongst Nations.

As I've said in other posts, I don't care why they hate us. It's sufficient to know that they do, and that they intend to do whatever they can to destroy us.

I realize that's pretty short on nuance. And it doesn't look at root causes. And it doesn't seek to find some way to placate people who will gladly accept the offered bribe and slit your throat anyway.

When we realize as a country that we're in danger, when the threat becomes really apparent and impossible to ignore, when it becomes time to either fight or die as a nation - then all gentility and concern for civilian deaths will go out the window. We will, for a time, become as ruthless (or more so) as our enemies, and then revert afterward to the peaceful people we normally are.

But until we wake up, it's going to be one provocation after another, until we're miserable while the 'peace' activists try to get us to placate the head-hackers. At some point a tipping point will be reached. Then we'll get pissed, then we'll be out for blood.

J.

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