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Very interesting...

We'll see if it holds...

The American Enterprise: Facts vs. Fiction: A Report from the Front

Yet, a quiet tide is rippling up the Tigris and Euphrates. The November 2005 study by Oxford Research found that when Iraqis are asked what form of political system will work best in their nation for the future, 64 percent now say “a democratic government with a chance for the leader to be replaced from time to time.” Only 18 percent choose “a government headed by one strong leader for life,” and just 12 percent pick “an Islamic state where politicians rule according to religious principles.” This surge toward representative toleration—which did not enjoy majority support in Iraq as recently as early 2004—ought not to be taken for granted. It is an historic groundswell.

I wonder if, in five years, we'll look at a functioning Iraq and go "You know, that could have been a hell of a lot worse."

Realistically, the status quo wasn't supportable. The sanctions were as solid as gauze, and about to be pulled down by Iraq's trading partners. Soemthing had to give. We could either have left things as they were, or worked to change things. I think it would have been worse (especially for the Iraqi people) to have waited.

It is. Defanging the Middle East is a vast undertaking. But again, wars have never been easy or antiseptic. Even after the hostilities of World War II were over, the U.S. occupied Japan for seven years of stabilization and reconstruction, and West Germany for four years (the first year, the Germans nearly starved).

And a guerilla war like we face in Iraq generally requires even more stamina. Eliminating a terror insurgency has historically taken a decade or two. It’s like eradicating smallpox; you must squeeze and squeeze and squeeze, and show great patience. Our occupation of the Philippines after the Spanish-American War is a closer example of what we face in Iraq; we fought an extensive insurgency there for years, then remained in the country for nearly a century, with very positive eventual results.

Interestingly, our soldiers appear to better understand the incremental nature of this war than many reporters, pundits, and politicians. “Americans seem to kind of want this McDonald’s war, where you drive up, you order it, you pay for it, you go to the next window and get a democracy. That’s not the way it works,” cautioned Army reservist Scott Southworth recently. “It takes a lot of effort; it takes a lot of time.”

Yes, it does. Another ten years, we'll really see what's what. I'm encouraged, though, by what I've seen.

So, Jason, what sort of time frame do you want to put on that bet?

J.

Comments (3)

I can't remember the precise terms of the bet I proposed. Can you find the original post? I think it was one year, but I'd like to see whatever it is I wrote :)

I found it it, it is here:

http://www.milblog.org/2005/12/on_a_previous_post.html#comments

I said "we'll be dealing with a very bad situation this time next year."

So, I guess we'll see what happens in December.

JLawson:

Sounds like a bet to me! They'll still have some problems, of course, (take a look at the IEEE report I put up on the electrical problems they're having) but overall I think things will be a lot better off.

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